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Bitcoin ETFs Bleed Billions: Is the Crypto Market Near a Turning Point?

Bitcoin continues to trade above the $60,000 level, but beneath the surface, the crypto market is sending mixed signals. In this exclusive interview, Thomas Perfumo, Global Economist at Kraken, joins Remy Blaire to break down why Bitcoin ETFs have posted weeks of consecutive outflows while Bitcoin itself continues to show remarkable resilience. He explains why capital has rotated toward the booming AI infrastructure trade, yet long-term investors may already be stepping in as the next major buyers of Bitcoin.

Thomas also addresses the headlines surrounding Strategy’s Bitcoin sales, ETF outflows, and why he believes those events may be distracting investors from the bigger picture. Despite institutional selling, Bitcoin has continued to hold key technical levels, while on-chain data shows exchange balances falling to multi-year lows historically a sign that long-term holders are accumulating rather than preparing to sell.

The conversation also dives into the macroeconomic outlook, including rising interest rate expectations, inflation, Federal Reserve policy, and geopolitical tensions in the Middle East. Thomas explains why liquidity conditions remain the biggest driver of Bitcoin’s price, discusses the historical four-year crypto cycle, and shares what he’s watching from Washington as lawmakers debate the CLARITY Act. He also highlights why tokenized assets, stablecoins, and regulatory clarity could become some of the biggest catalysts for the next phase of digital asset adoption.

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