The crew sizes up Bitcoin’s rebound, the fight to bring Hyperliquid onshore, the SEC’s new token fundraising framework, and why Stripe’s OpenRouter deal could make AI inference markets look a lot like DeFi.
Show highlights
🔹 Tom and Tarun report from Bhutan after discussing Bitcoin mining, AI, and tokenization with the king.
🔹 Bitcoin pushes back toward $80,000 as ETF inflows and the debasement trade revive crypto sentiment.
🔹 The panel explains why a U.S. Hyperliquid would probably require KYC, surveillance, and separate liquidity.
🔹 Robert argues the SEC’s $5 million startup exemption could reopen token crowdfunding for smaller projects.
🔹 Tom asks whether Regulation Crypto Assets solves an ICO-era problem that today’s builders no longer have.
🔹 Tarun predicts financial engineers will try to scale the small-offering exemption through many token launches.
🔹 AI could overwhelm government processes by removing the bureaucratic proof-of-work that quietly rationed access.
🔹 Stripe’s OpenRouter acquisition turns model routing, inference providers, and cached tokens into a DeFi-style market.
🔹 The hosts debate whether data rebates and inference tokens could finally revive crypto’s 2017 data-ownership dreams.
Hosts
⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly
⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly
⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures
⭐️Robert Leshner, Founder & CEO of Superstate
Links SEC Regulation Crypto Assets: https://www.sec.gov/rules-regulations… OpenRouter is joining Stripe: https://openrouter.ai/blog/announceme…
Timestamps
- 00:00 Intro
- 01:22 Tom & Tarun meet the King of Bhutan
- 04:13 Bitcoin rebounds and crypto gets hot again
- 08:10 What a compliant U.S. Hyperliquid could look like
- 13:14 The SEC’s proposed Regulation Crypto Assets
- 23:53 Are the new token rules eight years too late?
- 28:23 AI removes the government’s bureaucratic speed bumps
- 31:12 Why AI inference tokens could power the next cycle
- 34:13 Stripe buys OpenRouter and AI starts looking like DeFi
- 43:28 Router economics, data markets, and new security risks
- 51:01 Bull-market vibes from Bhutan and Asia
